Gravityloss 5 hours ago

99% of scifi papers over these things. Somehow people always land in nice flat areas. Aliens' ground vehicle was modified from an airport tow truck. Talking about convenient flat land.

Even on Earth, with weather and generous erosion, large portions of land are very dense forests or very rough mountains.

  • selljamhere 4 hours ago

    One of the 1%. Alien famously starts with the crew of the Nostromo (a space mining rig) riding a transport down to an uninhabited moon where the transport of this mining vessel is damaged by... landing on a rock.

    • dmurray 20 minutes ago

      And Luke Skywalker's spaceship crash landed in a swamp.

      That's two of the most famous sci-fi franchises in the world, so I don't think sci-fi creators are as guilty of ignoring this possibility as GP seems to think.

  • altmanaltman 4 hours ago

    Tbf if you were an alien landing on earth, there's plenty of smooth flat surfaces available. If you can pick your landing spot, why would you pick dense forests or very rough mountains? Same logic when we land on other planets

    • alistairSH 2 hours ago

      So many Home Depot parkings lots to choose from, hopefully the analysis-paralysis thwarts their invasion plans.

    • ErroneousBosh an hour ago

      > there's plenty of smooth flat surfaces available

      Any supermarket car park, for a start.

      Plus it would be handy for picking groceries so you can have a cup of tea and something to eat while you figure out how you're going to invade.

wronex 5 hours ago

Did someone perhaps come here after watching Sebastian Lague’s pen plotter video?

https://youtu.be/qyNWDzO6kKQ

There is a brief mention of chaos terrain while he searches the surface of Mars for an interesting plot.

  • tiagod an hour ago

    That video was indeed where I found out about this!

ozyschmozy 3 days ago

I've been reading the Mars trilogy (by Kim Stanley Robinson) after it was recommended on an HN thread a while back, and it's been on my mind to look into what the "chaos" was. Pretty neat

  • omnicognate 6 hours ago

    "Badlands of Aram Chaos" itself sounds like a sci fi title. Also, the picture of it in the "Gallery" section is cool and visually confusing. I'm struggling not to see a smooth, reflecting water surface in it, that can't possibly be there.

    Edit: I think it's an aerial picture, but my brain insists on seeing it as one taken from the surface.

    • andai 6 hours ago

      Yeah, I was just looking at that. What the heck. It's aerial?

      Reminds me of "name one thing in this picture"

hodder an hour ago

Fascincating article. Also a cool band name.

jakzurr 3 hours ago

Holy smokes, what a rabbit hole. Saving this link for late night reading.

andrewrn 3 hours ago

Perfect Hacker News link :)

  • tiagod an hour ago

    I thought the same! Thank dang for putting this in the second-chance pool (without my intervention).

Razengan an hour ago

Man there's so much cool shit to see out in the universe if we can only get our crap sorted for long enough to get our ass off our home.

tokai 7 hours ago

I'm surprised that we do not have any chaos terrain on Earth. Can't find any explanation why. We have had large sudden flood events on Earth, but maybe weathering orders the 'chaos' over time?

  • card_zero 6 hours ago

    The suggested mechanism is that sedimentary rocks form over ice. That puzzles me in itself, because it implies a river with ice at the bottom. But anyway, then some heat source arrives and melts the ice, causing a sort of rug pull that means the rock layer drops down and breaks up. Kaboom.

    • ycombinete 3 hours ago

      At first I thought perhaps it was a non-h20 liquid, since that would explain the frozen bits on the bottom.

      Bit apparently it’s more banal, and sediment doesn’t need a river or a liquid at all. It’s any kind of deposit. So wind can deposit sedimen, volcanic ash is sediment glaciers deposit it etc.

    • petsfed 5 hours ago

      I think the most likely case for sedimentary deposition over ice would be something like volcanic eruption or an impact event redepositing material onto pre-existing ice.

  • eastbound 3 hours ago

    I didn't understand, how is that dissimilar to mountains? Large tilted blocks, hundreds of meters high, hills and depressions...