immibis2 8 hours ago

A GUI that lists all the available options is much more user-friendly than a YAML configuration file where you have to guess them or pore over documentation before starting, but even Jenkinsfile syntax looks better than YAML, and Groovy is a real (edit: realer) language that, in theory, can have things like syntax highlighting and auto-completion.

  • yepyoukno 7 hours ago

    Ugh!

    I knew someone would try to say groovy was a real language.

    I miss the good old days with bash scripts and cron.

    Why must so many diverging environments and tools mingle in our mental space.

    • hiAndrewQuinn 7 hours ago

      You can always just split the difference and call your shell script with

          sh "./whatever.sh"`
      
      if you want in a modern Jenkinsfile. It's really not that big of a deal to avoid Groovy if you truly cannot stand it.

      As for cron, that's also supported out of the box.

          triggers {
                  cron('0 0 * * *')
              }
      
      At that point Jenkins is mostly acting as a nice frontend to all those cronjobs and shell scripts, but at least it keeps records of all the logs etc.
      • tomkarho an hour ago

        It's all fun and shells until you start adding parameters especially when those parameters have quotemarks in them. Groovy can get pretty wild with the syntax.

      • yepyoukno 4 hours ago

        Oh brother don’t think I don’t know how to “work around” anyone else’s favorite tool.

        I guess I should be happy it isn’t CA Unicenter.

        • hiAndrewQuinn 2 hours ago

          See it how you wish; but shell script execution was part of Jenkins from day 1, to my knowledge, over 20 years ago now. It's a 'workaround' the same way walking upstairs is a workaround for an escalator, imo.

          • yepyoukno 17 minutes ago

            Oh I know it! I was slighting Groovy when the old fashion way always worked just fine!

            Didn’t mean to draw it out as “one of those” battles.

            Cheers!

pestatije 4 hours ago

cant read those snippets... need more contrast

  • hiAndrewQuinn 2 hours ago

    apologies, didn't test the layout on light mode - thanks for letting me know