andyjohnson0 9 minutes ago

Sure, screen time. But I am also deeply tired of just keeping things charged. Some of my stuff insists on special usb cables - because those cables contain chips that mediate between the <thing> and its charger. Its exhausting.

lunasorcery 5 minutes ago

While I agree with the article, I can't help but feel like the superfluous animations undercut it somewhat. Would be nice to have a version with the images/diagrams but without the animations - maybe add support for prefers-reduced-motion?

Animats 2 hours ago

The article (with its doom-scrolling) suggests some stats phones should have:

    Dismissing a notification ...... 22%
    Intentional use ................ 20%
    Checking something that pinged . 18%
    Replying to a person ........... 15%
    Updating/configuring/fixing .... 12%
    Unlocking, forgetting why ...... 8%
    Managing a subscription ........ 5%
That would be kind of cool.

The real headache is that everything with a network connection needs system administration.

eykanal 2 hours ago

There's a great essay hiding in that page, but oh my goodness that is a frustrating format and layout.

delichon 35 minutes ago

> Screen Time is a blame shift dressed in a soft font.

The alternative to giving you the responsibility is for the phone to take it, to tell you when you may and may not use it and what for. That's not better.

strict9 an hour ago

This is an interesting and more apt way to frame smart features.

One way I've found to avoid objects that come alive is to buy the commercial version.

- TVs aimed at commercial hospitality businesses let you avoid a lot of the bloatware and smart features that come bundled with it

- Commercial washer/dryers let you avoid bluetooth and wifi and other junk not needed to wash your clothes. These are available without the coin operated features

Commercial versions of consumer products are usually simpler, more durable, and don't have advertising and smart features.

  • gchamonlive an hour ago

    They are also likely to cost more and aren't normally directly available to regular customers, like you need either a business license of some sort and to contact a representative.

    • strict9 38 minutes ago

      It is true commercial versions are slightly more expensive. But this is the tradeoff of buying something more durable and meant to be used continuously.

      But it's not true that they are difficult to buy.

      For my two examples: Commercial washer/dryer sets available through any appliance dealer. Commercial hospitality TVs and other commercial electronics are available via Grainger.

  • mghackerlady an hour ago

    Part of me wonders if things are like this because the masses have been trained to see their abuse as a good thing, in a similar way to how the american worker sees themselves not as exploited but as a temporarily restrained exploiter

throw949449 2 hours ago

> This watch costs twelve dollars. It weighs twenty-one grams.

> This watch costs four hundred dollars. It also tells time. > It also tracks my steps, monitors my blood oxygen, measures my sleep quality, logs my workouts, reminds me to breathe, reminds me to stand,

I had quite opposite experince with casio. If I want water proof (like swimming) watches, I would have to buy bulky and super expensive gshock with GPS and tons of useless festures.

$20 chinese smart watch are completely water sealed, tiny and simple to use. I can even remove wrist band, to make them even smaller. Only downside is battery life is only one week.

gchamonlive an hour ago

I don't know what's the state in other markets, but where I live, Brazil, you always have the dumb consumer products. I think the only pathological example are TVs in which they require you to signin before being able to download streaming apps, but this is something that if you really must you can work around by buying a TV box.

Also, can't you just not give these products the password to your WiFi? Do they make fridges and wash machines that don't work without internet?

djoldman 42 minutes ago

> Screen Time gives you a report card. And if the grade is bad, the design makes one thing clear:

> That's a you problem.

> It measures your usage. Tracks your behavior. Gives you a weekly report card. If the numbers are too high?

> You picked it up too much.

> You spent too long.

> You failed your limit.

> Try again next week.

> Try harder.

> Screen Time is a blame shift dressed in a soft font.

> ... What if the exhaustion everybody feels isn't a moral failure but the completely rational response to being made responsible for an ecosystem of objects that never stop asking?

> Everything you buy is the beginning of a relationship you'll be maintaining until one of you dies or gets discontinued.

For adults: nothing requires you to use a smartphone. Buy that Casio watch if you want. Use those wired headphones and never pair them again (I do).

EDIT: Some things require a smartphone, not nothing.

  • nancyminusone 31 minutes ago

    >nothing requires you to use a smartphone

    Another story from the hn front page today:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47662857

    • djoldman 10 minutes ago

      True. I amended my response.

      There are exceptions. Also, curiously, some things require older hardware like faxes and do not accept newer hardware like smartphones.

qbane 26 minutes ago

The watch is interactive! Nice detail

mghackerlady an hour ago

I love this. Maybe it's because I've always subconsciously realised this (I do prefer my flip phone and my iPhone stays in a drawer at home) but I've never seen something put words to my thoughts more accurately than this has

ben8bit an hour ago

Funny story, but I didn't realise I much I didn't want an Apple Watch, until I got one. I exercise daily and most days I just want it to shut up.

hmokiguess 2 hours ago

Ironically, casio, the company behind the prime example is now doing these kinds of things: https://www.casio.com/us/moflin/

  • forinti 28 minutes ago

    But they keep churning out the classic watches and they are everywhere and cheap.

pixelmelt an hour ago

I liked this, reminds me of some other discussion on recycling/global warming etc being pushed as the comsumers fault

airza an hour ago

Some of these fonts and transitions I like a lot, but sometimes it feels like there are a few too many fonts on screen.

  • mghackerlady an hour ago

    It has a plaintext version which I appreciate (though I wish it were actual plaintext instead off formatted html with the aesthetics of plaintext)

altairprime a day ago

This post says, “22% dismiss notifications”. Why do people allow this? I see people with phones that have 3 new notifications per 5 minutes and none of them are human being messages or human being event reminders.

Turn off every notification that isn’t actionable or joyful to you. The news isn’t actionable. Stop letting the news task you. Your social feeds aren’t actionable. Stop letting your feeds task you.

(And, yes, I’ll concede that Duo push is valid, because either I initiated that, or I have a problem to solve. Being employed brings some of us joy, after all!)

Notifications are not meant to fill the silences in your life. Your thoughts are. Not all the random drivel that phones opportunistically shovel into our faces.

I don’t really like this post because it rabble-rouses rather than owning up to the major failure of the author up top. Maybe it’ll help someone regardless, but it could have been a lot more direct with no less effectiveness. Missed opportunity, I suppose.

  • zxlk21e 2 hours ago

    Managing these notifications (which are on by default most of the time) is a form of what I'm writing at here, isn't it?

    • altairprime 20 minutes ago

      They’re only on if you clicked “Allow” on the permissions dialog for them, right? Or is this a thing where Android is forcing everyone to accept notifications by default? Or..?

    • loloquwowndueo an hour ago

      Kinda but one-time disabling of notifications on a new app is setting the time on your Casio watch a couple of times a year. Do it once (or very infrequently) and you’re done.

      Mine is a Timex Ironman :)

RuoqiJin an hour ago

Oh my god this site is so cool. I just want to say — how much time did you pour into the typography and animations on the frontend? I absolutely love it.

You picked the right way to show each paragraph — what to expand, what to keep short, what to highlight. I couldn't stop scrolling. UR an artist! maybe AI can help style every line of text, but it can't make something feel this good to read.

  • zxlk21e 27 minutes ago

    A lot! The Casio up top is fully functional (click the buttons!)

ToucanLoucan an hour ago

Loved this. A lot of what's kept me sane (and what my wife is now trying to learn from me) is how absolutely merciless I am on notifications. Every time an app buzzes me, it damn well better be information I want, and if it isn't, I change the settings or revoke notifications altogether. If I am not shopping, I do not care how good your deals are. If I am not bored, I don't care what the Anxiety Machine has found to show me.

My devices serve me, not the shareholders of their respective firms.

  • supern0va 34 minutes ago

    There is still a remarkable amount of friction here in doing so. There should be a one click button for "don't show me notifications like this", which incentivizes apps to have appropriate granular notification settings.

    And don't even get me started on how Samsung on certain models hid the notification categories behind a feature gate with a random OS update.

globular-toast an hour ago

I'm getting into woodwork. I just bought a vice made in the 1940s, the same one my grandfather used. It's finished. As are my chisels, and my cast iron cookware. It's definitely refreshing.

mbgerring 2 days ago

My smart watch has become an invaluable digital prosthetic to help me backfill cognitive challenges that I’ve learned are related to ADHD.

“It dings all the time!” Yes, exactly, having a buzzer attached to my person at all times ensures I don’t miss appointments and that I leave to things on time.

Your thermostat that bothers you? It would be great if we lived in a world where energy was free, and there were no consequences for using as much energy as you want. That’s not the world we live in. And you probably don’t want to live in a world where the power company decides when you can and can’t turn on your AC. This is the compromise. I’m sorry you’re bothered by it — the consequences of other solutions to this problem are likely much worse.

It’s easy to forget that these things exist, and people buy them, to solve real problems. But writing a whole essay and just eliding that fact strikes me as lazy.

  • AlotOfReading 2 hours ago

    The larger point of the article is that these new devices are dependent on your continued labor to keep them running usefully. Moreover, this is a choice in how they're designed.

    The article isn't saying they don't do other things, it's just not relevant.

  • mghackerlady an hour ago

    I agree to an extent. I also have ADHD and find these things useful, but the tradeoff is that to be effective they always have to be important in a way a cell phone or smart watch is very bad at guaranteeing since their main customer isn't the consumer but the advertising firm. I wish bespoke PDAs were still a thing (or at least, an easily accessible thing)

  • zxlk21e 2 hours ago

    For the record, I also have ADHD and I find the opposite impact on my psyche.