kjellsbells 14 hours ago

Even if you are a govt that likes Trump, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that the he and his administration are very much not "clean on opsec".

We have had, in no particular order: the boxes in the bathroom at mar-a-lago, the Chinese lady wandering around the property unescorted, the casual tweeting of classified satellite imagery, the adding of journalists to group chats, the use of unsecured phone messaging picked up by photographers. Then we have people in the presidential orbit demonstrably funded by adversaries (Tim Pope, Maria Butina). Oh and the obvious conflict of interest around the leaderships investments. Amd we havent even got to the blackmail risk posed by materials alleged in the Epsteim files.

If you were a regular civilian whose employer was looking to get you a clearance, any of these kinds of things would put your application in the shredder.

Given these facts, I would not expect any of the EU or FiveEyes partners to share everything they learn.

  • WarOnPrivacy 13 hours ago

    > I would not expect any of the EU or FiveEyes partners to share everything they learn.

    I've been scraping hard to find something positive from this administration. Anything about intelligence services "sharing less information" is likely to be one.

    This is tied to US IC's long history of (near exclusively) surveilling people not suspected of a crime and rarely (if ever) telling a public truth about it.

  • mmooss 13 hours ago

    > Even if you are a govt that likes Trump, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that the he and his administration are very much not "clean on opsec".

    Also, Trump adopts the tactical position of arbitrary power: He asserts the power to do whatever he wants, and to disregard your interests. That tactic has some advantages but also means even his allies can't rely on him not turning on them.

  • esbranson 11 hours ago

    Most expect Five Eyes to share with the US, especially now the UK has abandoned the EU. No one expects the EU to, they are unable (or unwilling, hard to tell) to even defend their prospective member states like Ukraine. What could the EU possibly provide the US or Five Eyes outside European affairs? No one talks about the security blunders of the EU so neither I, nor anyone else, would know, not because they don't happen but because no one cares.

rurban 2 hours ago

So the Amsterdam InterXion does not mirror everything directly to the NSA anymore but now only to the GCHQ, which then mirrors everything to the NSA and the other four parties.

Nothing really changed.

esbranson 11 hours ago

And nothing of value was lost.

> “but we are more critical”

mcv 12 hours ago

"Now"? Were they still sharing as much as usual until now? Trump blabbing Israeli intelligence to Iran's biggest ally during his first term should have been a massive warning to everybody to be incredibly careful about what you share with the US.